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Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR G
FX, 35mm & DX, AF-S G, 1,299.95
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Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR

Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR G (77mm filters, 25.0 oz./708g, 1.3 feet/0.40m close focus). enlarge. The biggest source of support for this free website is when you use these links, especially this link directly to this lens at Adorama and at Amazon and at Ritz when you get anything. Thank you! Ken.

 

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Sharpness Comparison to all other 24mm lenses August 2010

 

see also:

24-120mm f/3.5-5.6 VR (2003-2010)

24-120mm AF-D (1996-2002)

24-85mm VR (2012-)

 

Ideal for

Perfect for use as your only lens on FX digital and film.

 

Not for

I wouldn't bother with this on a DX camera. I'd use a DX lens, especially the 18-200mm VR II, instead.

Personally, I prefer the 28-300mm VR on FX and film its longer zoom range and lower price. Its optics, mechanics, and ergonomics are the same as this 24-120mm; I think someone at Nikon accidentally reversed the prices of these two lenses, which were announced at the same time.

 

Introduction       top

Intro   Specifications   Performance   Usage   Compared   Recommendations

Compatibility    History

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The new Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR is a great lens. It is worlds sharper than its predecessor, the fuzzy 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-S VR (2003-2010). Both these 24-120 AF-S VR lenses are much better ergonomically than their predecessor, the clunky 24-120mm AF-D (1996-2002). All three Nikon 24-120mm lenses are loaded with distortion.

This new Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR would be a game-changing, earth-shaking do-it-all lens on FX, except that the 28-300mm VR was announced on the same day, and is even more useful, for less money.

Both lenses are made with the same quality and materials in Thailand. They look the same.

Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR versus 28-300mm VR

Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR and 28-300mm VR ED. enlarge.

Both lenses use ED glass, but only the 24-120 bothers to use gold trim. The gold trim for the 28-300mm ED was put on the non-ED 85mm f/1.4 AF-S instead by mistake. (The exterior styling has nothing to do with what's inside.)

Both lenses have instant manual-focus override.

They both have the same strong distortion.

They are just as sharp as each other, which is pretty sharp. How do I know? I purchased one of each from Adorama, and shot them against each other at the range. The two images are usually indistinguishable, but depending on the test conditions for each frame, one will be slightly better or worse than the other. Neither is better or worse than the other overall.

Therefore, I see no reason to pay more for this 24-120mm that does less than the 28-300mm.

This new 24-120 is a great lens, but the 28-300mm VR goes 2.5 times longer, with little increase in size or weight, for less money!

The only two things the 24-120 does slightly better for the extra $270 is go to 24mm, instead of 28mm, and add about a half stop more speed. Even at 120mm, there is less than one stop speed advantage to the 24-120mm, and at 28mm, the 28-300mm is faster. 24mm is not a significant difference from 28mm. In fact, 24mm is so much the same as 28mm that Nikon can't even fit "24" close enough to "28" on the zoom ring, and instead has to use a line pointing to where it ought to be!

24mm

Zoom ring at 24mm.

If you anticipate a few situations where you might need the slightly wider angle of the 24-120mm, I'd still get the 28-300mm VR instead and use the money saved to buy a used 18mm f/3.5 AI-s or 20mm f/2.8 AI-s, either of which are far wider and have less distortion than any of these zooms. For even less money, you could buy a used 20mm f/4 or 20mm f/3.5, along with the 28-300mm VR, and still spend less for the two lenses than just the 24-120mm f/4 VR alone!

If you think you might need a faster lens at the long range, the half-stop extra of the 24-120 is meaningless: the 28-300 is f/5.6 at 300mm, but at 50mm, it's f/4.5. If you really need faster in the tele range, use the $270 you saved buying the 28-300mm to buy a used 85mm f/1.8 AF-D over eBay (here's a direct link to the 85/1.8 at eBay), and you'll be way ahead of the 24-120mm for speed and performance.

Go for the 28-300mm VR. I did. I bought both of these, and sent back the 24-120mm as redundant. The 28-300mm VR is as good, and goes all the way to 300mm, for less money.

If we forget about the 28-300mm VR for a moment, here is my review of the 24-120mm f/4 on its own significant merits.

 

Compatibility       intro     top

Everything works perfectly on every digital Nikon, both FX and DX, and even on Nikon's cheapest digitals like the D40, D40x, D60, D3000, D3100 and D5000.

It's also perfect on decent or recent AF film cameras like the F6, F100, F5, N80 and N75.

The incompatibilities for older or cheaper film cameras are that:

1.) It won't autofocus with the cheapest new AF film cameras like the N55, but if you focus manually, everything else works great. Even if you lose autofocus, these cameras have in-finder focus confirmation dots to help you.

2.) Late 1980s ~ early 1990s AF cameras like the N90s, N70 and F4 will focus just fine, but you'll lose VR. You'll have Program and Shutter-priority modes, but lose Manual and Aperture-priority since you have no way to set the aperture on the camera or on the lens.

3.) You're really pushing it with the oldest AF cameras like the N2020, N6006 and N8008. You'll have no AF, confused exposure modes, and no VR. Manual focus is fine, along with electronic focus indications.

4.) Since it has no aperture ring, it's just about useless with manual focus film cameras.

See Nikon Lens Compatibility for details with your camera. Read down the "AF-S, AF-I," "G" and "VR" columns for this lens. You'll get the least of all the features displayed in all columns, since "G" (gelding) is a handicap which removes features.

 

Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR

Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR. enlarge.

 

History       intro     top

Nikon's first 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-D (1996-2002) was nicknamed "The Streetsweeper" by journalists since they could shoot just about anything that was thrown at them on an instant's notice with it. It was a swell lens.

Nikon's next 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6 VR (2003-2010) was awful. It added VR and instant manual-focus override, which was great on paper, but there were two big problems. It had a lot of falloff, which lead to annoyingly dark corners at just about every setting, and it was horribly soft, also at every setting. This horrible optical performance won it a place among Nikons Ten Worst Lenses of All Time.

This new 24-120mm is a huge improvement over the other 24-120s. It retains VR and instant manual-focus override, and adds a full stop of real speed where you need it at 120mm, and is sharp.

Yes, this new lens costs more than twice as much as the old f/3.5-5.6 VR, but the old lens was horrible because it never got sharp, even stopped down.

 

Specifications         top

Intro   Specifications   Performance   Usage   Compared   Recommendations

 

Name        top

Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR

Bottom, Nikon 24-120.

Nikon calls this the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-120mm f/4G ED VR.

    AF-S: Silent Wave Autofocus Motor.

    G: Gelded for cost-reduction and removing compatibility with older cameras.

    ED: Magic Extra-low Dispersion Glass.

    VR: Vibration Reduction.

Magic Nano-crystal coat is an anti-reflection coating which varies its index of refraction continuously to achieve even greater reflection reduction. It's probably only on one surface, and is used mostly for marketing purposes.

 

Optics        top

Nikon 24-120mm diagram

Internal diagram, Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR. enlarge.

17 elements in 13 groups.

Internal focusing; nothing moves externally as focused.

Three aspherical elements.

Two ED (magic Extra-low Dispersion glass) elements.

Nikon Super Integrated Coating (SIC).

 

Diaphragm        top

9 rounded blades.

Stops down to f/22.

 

Coverage        top

Film, FX and DX.

 

Focal Length        top

24-120mm.

When used on a DX camera, it gives angles of view similar to what a 35-180mm lens gives when used on an FX or 35mm camera.

 

Angle of View        top

84° ~ 20.5° on FX and RealRaw.

61° ~ 13.3° on small-format DX.

 

Close Focus        top

1.3 feet (15-3/4" or 0.40m), measured.

1.5 feet (0.45m).

 

Maximum Reproduction Ratio        top

1:4.2.

 

Hard Infinity Focus Stop?        top

No.

You have to let the AF system focus at infinity.

 

Focus Scale        top

Yes.

 

Depth-of-Field Scale        top

No.

 

Infra-Red Focus Index        top

No.

 

Aperture Ring        top

No.

 

Filter Thread        top

77mm, plastic.

Does not rotate.

 

Vibration Reduction (VR)         top

VR II.

Claims "up to 4 stops" improvement.

 

Size        top

Nikon specifies 3.3" (84mm) diameter by 4.1" (103mm) extension from flange.

 

Weight        top

24.960 oz. (707.6g), measured.

Nikon specifies 23.6 oz. (670g).

 

Hood        top

Plastic bayonet HB- 53 hood, included.

 

Case        top

CL-1218 pouch, included.

 

Included        top

Snap-on front lens cap

Cheaper LF-4 rear cap, not the professional LF-1 as specified.

Plastic bayonet HB- 53 hood

CL-1218 pouch.

 

Quality         top

Made in Thailand.

 

Announced        top

19 August 2010.

 

Available         top

Shipping since the end of September 2010.

 

Nikon Product Number        top

2193.

 

Price        top

$1,299.95 list price, USA, August 2010.

 

Nikon 24-120mm diagram

Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR and its Box.

 

Performance       top

Intro   Specifications   Performance   Usage   Compared   Recommendations

 

Overall       performance     top

The 24-120mm f/4 VR is a great lens, however, sharpness, mechanical quality and distortion are the same as the 28-300mm VR. I'd get the 28-300mm instead for less money and longer range.

 

Focus       performance     top

AF Speed

AF is reasonably fast, a bit faster than the 28-300mm VR, but not instantaneous, either.

 

AF Accuracy

AF is always right-on.

 

Manual Focus

Manual focus is great; just grab the ring at any time.

It's slow at 24mm, and a little fast at 120mm; the best to which a zoom can hope.

 

M/A - M Switch

Nikon goofed. This switch is supposed to be labeled "A - M."

The "M/A" position means autofocus. It's called "M/A" because you also can focus manually simply by grabbing the focus ring in this position.

The "M/A" position means autofocus. It's called "M/A" because back in the old days, when Nikon had almost caught up to Canon who had been doing this for ten years before, Nikon was trying to show off that you could focus manually while in the AF position.

Paint over the extra M if you're easily confused.

 

Bokeh       performance     top

Bokeh, the character of out of focus backgrounds, not simply how far out of focus they are, is reasonably pleasant at the long end, the only place it might matter. Out-of-focus highlights are soft circles.

 

Distortion       performance     top

The Nikon 24-120m f/4 VR is loaded with distortion.

On FX, it has strong barrel distortion at 24mm, and strong pincushion distortion from 35mm through 120mm. If distortion bothers you, buy another lens, or shoot it at 28mm, where distortion is minimal.

On DX, it still has a lot of distortion: barrel from 24 - 28mm, and pincushion from 35mm through 120mm.

This can be corrected for critical use by plugging these figures into Photoshop's lens distortion filter. These aren't facts or specifications, they are the results of my research that requires hours of photography and calculations on the resulting data.

 
FX and Film at 3m (10')
DX at 3m (10')
24mm
+4.7*
+3.0
28mm
0.0*
+1.0
35mm
-3.5
-1.0
50mm
-4.2
-1.5
70mm
-4.5
-2.0
85mm
-4.5
-1.5
120mm
-4.0
-1.0

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* very minor waviness remains.

 

Ergonomics (handling and ease-of-use)       performance     top

Nikon 24-120/4 VR

Nikon 24-120/4 VR. enlarge.

Ergonomics are fine. Focus, zoom, and everything feels great.

 

Eyeblow       performance     top

The 24-120mm is a "pumper" zoom, so air pumps in and out as you zoom in and out. You may feel some air blow out of the eyepiece into your eye if you zoom out quickly.

You won't usually care, but the design of the 24-120 VR is such that air, and thus dirt, are pumped in and out all the time through both your lens and your camera. The ass-gasket doesn't matter.

 

Falloff (darkened corners)       performance     top

Falloff on FX is strong at 24mm at large apertures. You'll see it at 24mm at f/4, but that's about it.

Its so strong at 24mm and f/4 you might think you got a defective lens, but they're all this way. Stop down to f/5.6 and it's much less of a problem.

It won't be an issue at all on DX (see crop factor).

I've exaggerated this by shooting a gray field and placing these on a gray background.

 

Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR falloff on FX and film at infinity, no correction.

 
f/4
f/5.6
f/8
24mm
50mm
120mm

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Filters, use with       performance     top

There is no problem with filter vignetting, even with a thick filter. At 24mm at f/4, your biggest worry is the len's own falloff.

Don't try two stacked filters at 24mm on FX; you will get some cut-off.

The filter ring pumps forwards and back with zooming, but never rotates.

 

Focal Lengths, effective        performance     top

The effective maximum focal length shortens at distances closer than infinity in order to allow this lens to focus as close as it does.

At 7 feet, the 120mm setting is really only about 100mm, effective. It gets even shorter at closer distances. At a couple of feet, the 28-300mm only has slightly more magnification at its 300mm setting, which shortens by an even larger percentage at the same close distances. The 28-300mm gets more magnification at any distance, but not by as great a margin at 2 feet.

 

Lateral Color Fringes       performance     top

There are no lateral color fringes on the D3, which corrects them automatically should this lens have any.

 

Mechanics and Construction       performance     top

Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR

Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR. enlarge.

The Nikon 24-120/4 VR is made as well as most of Nikon's latest lenses, like the 18-200mm VR and 28-300mm VR. It's all plastic on the outside, and what seems like plastic and metal on the inside.

 

Filter Threads

Plastic.

 

Hood

Plastic bayonet.

 

Hood Mount

Plastic.

 

Barrel Exterior

Plastic.

 

Focus Ring

Plastic; rubber covered.

 

Zoom Ring

Plastic; rubber covered.

 

Depth-of-Field Scale

None.

 

Internals

I see both plastic and metal.

 

Aperture Ring

None.

 

Mount

Dull-chromed brass.

 

Markings

Paint.

 

Identity Plate

Gold-look plastic plate on outside of barrel, just below focus scale window.

 

Serial Number

Sticker glued into recess on bottom of barrel.

 

Ass-Gasket (dust seal at mount)

Yes.

 

Noises When Shaken

Assorted mild clunking.

 

Made in

Thailand: lens and both caps.

 

Rear Cap

Nikon LF-4

Nikon LF-4 rear cap. enlarge.

Cheaper LF-4 rear cap supplied with lens. It of course is completely interchangeable with the professional LF-1 rear cap which has been standard since about 1965.

 

Weaknesses

Don't ever bang the front of the lens on anything; you will quite likely break some part of the zoom mechanism.

 

Sharpness       performance     top

Warning 1: Image sharpness depends more on you than your lens.

Warning 2: Lens sharpness doesn't mean much to good photographers.

With those caveats, the Nikon 24-120/4 is quite sharp. It's a bit softer on the sides and corners at f/4, but so what: it's still quite good, and in the conditions under which you'd be shooting at f/4, it's unlikely you'd have anything in focus in the corners as well as in the center at the same time.

It is as sharp as the 28-300 VR.

When Nikon makes a great lens, which is about the only thing it has done in 2010, it makes it easy to review: it's sharp.

Nikon's claimed MTF curves:

Nikon 24-120mm f/4 MTFMTF, 24mm.

 

Nikon 24-120mm f/4 MTFMTF, 120mm.

These MTF curves are much better than MTF curves of the old, nasty 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6 VR (at 24mm and at 120mm).

 

Sunstars       performance     top

With its largely rounded diaphragm, I haven't been able to get any sunstars out of it.

For good sunstars, use an older lens with a more conventional diaphragm. The 9 straight blades of the 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5 make exquisite sunstars.

 

Survivability       performance     top

The Nikon 24-120/4 VR is a consumer lens. I doubt that any sample made today will endure 20 years of constant use without needing repair, as can Nikon's professional lenses like the 80-200mm f/2.8 AF-D.

This 24-120 has a lot of plastic in it, and depends on the internal motor to focus the lens, not a motor in the camera. Likewise, hit the front of the lens on anything, and you'll probably take out the zoom mechanism.

It will last for years under the kind of use for which its designed, but I don't know that this lens has any destiny as a classic in 20 years, especially if used professionally on a daily basis.

 

Zooming       performance     top

It zooms well, but it is a little crowded at the wide end.

Zoom ring, Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR.

Zoom ring, Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR. enlarge.

 

Usage             top

Intro   Specifications   Performance   Usage   Compared   Recommendations

Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR

Controls, Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR. enlarge.

Focus

Leave it on M/A.

Only set it to M if you want to disable autofocus.

 

Vibration Reduction (VR)

Leave it ON, unless you're on a tripod.

Leave it at NORMAL, unless you're shooting from a moving platform.

 

Compared       top

Intro   Specifications   Performance   Usage   Compared   Recommendations

2012 update: see also the newer 24-85mm VR which does pretty much the same thing with less weight and for less than half the price, and which does pretty much the same thing.

The 24-120mm is about the same size and weight as the 28-300mm VR. Both have the same mechanical, optical and ergonomic quality. The gold "ED" band on the 24-120mm has been left off the 28-300mm in the interest of discretion when the 28-300mm is used by investigators; both lenses are ED.

The "N" nano-crystal coating of the 24-120mm is marketing baloney; the old 24-120 VR had no problem with flare, nor does the 28-300mm.

Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR and 28-300mm VR

Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR and 28-300mm VR. enlarge.

The 24-120mm comes with a cheaper LF-4 rear cap while the 28-300mm comes with a professional LF-1 rear cap.

 
24-120 f/4 VR
Anni
2012-
2010-
2010-
1998-2006
2003-2010
1996-2002
Maximum Aperture
f/3.5-4.5
f/4
f/3.5-5.6
f/3.5-4.5
f/3.5-5.6
f/3.5-5.6
FIlter
72mm
77mm
77mm
62mm
72mm
72mm
Close Focus*
1.25'/0.38m
1.3'/0.40m
1.5'/0.45m
0.7'/0.22m
1.6'/0.5m
1.5'/0.5m
Max Repro Ratio
1:4.5
1:4.2
1:3.2
1:2
1:4.8
1:4.8
Sharpness
New
Very Good
Very Good
Very Good
Horrid
Good enough
Distortion
New
Heinous
Heinous
Minor
Heinous
 
Instant manual-focus override?
Yes
Yes
Yes
No
Yes
no
Diaphragm
7
9
9
9
7
7
Weight*
485g
708g
796g
450g
568g
560g
Price, 10/2010
n/a
Price, 12/2012

* Actual measured values-.

Nikon 24-120 and 28-105mm

Nikon 28-105 AF-D, 24-120 AF-S and 28-300mm VR. enlarge.

If price, size or distortion matters, the Nikon 28-105 AF-D covers about the same zoom range as the 24-120mm, but does it without distortion, focuses much closer with an additional macro range absent in the other lenses, and weighs and costs much less. Disadvantages are slightly less sharpness at 105mm and balky manual focus.

If you need optical quality better than the 28-300mm, the 24-120mm isn't any better. You'll have to step up to Nikon's extraordinary 24-70mm f/2.8 AF-S ED G N:

Nikon 24-120 and 28-105mm

24-120 f/4, 24-70mm f/2.8 and 28-300mm VR. enlarge.

 

What about the 24-85mm lenses?

Nikon 24-85mm VR

Nikon 24-85mm AF-S G, 24-85mm VR and 28-300mm VR. enlarge.

I'd forget the 24-85mm f/2.8-4 AF-D, sold today and introduced in 2000. It was never very sharp, even on film, even though it has a great 9-bladed diaphragm and works on manual-focus 35mm cameras.

The original 24-85mm AF-S G (2002-2006) is a thoroughly modern lens, with astounding identical optical performance, but lacking VR. It's as sharp as this 24-120 VR and made as well, complete with ED glass and AF-S instant manual-focus overide.

The 28-300mm VR is bigger and heavier but less expensive and just as sharp.

Avoid the earlier 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6 VR, it's a dog optically.

The 16-85mm VR is a great lens, but only for DX, not FX.

 

 
Anni
2012-
2002-2006
2000-
2010-
2010-
Filter size
72mm
67mm
72mm
77mm
77mm
AF type
AF-S
AF-S
screw
AF-S
AF-S
Instant manual-focus override?
Yes
Yes
no
Yes
Yes
Close focus

1.25'

0.38m

1.2'

0.38m

0.5'

0.21m

1.3'

0.4m

1.6'

0.5m

Max. repro ratio
1:4.5
1:4.7
1:2
1:4.2
1:3.2
Sharpness
Excellent
fair
Distortion
Heinous
Heinous
Weight

16.2 oz.

460 g

14.5 oz.

412 g

19 oz.

545 g

25.0 oz.

708 g

28.1 oz.

796 g

Price, 7/2012
$300 used

Recommendations       top

Intro   Specifications   Performance   Usage   Compared   Recommendations

This 24-120mm is a great lens. It's not the fault of this lens, but Nikon just happened to introduce the more useful and equal quality 28-300mm at a lower price on the same day, which in my opinion, made this 24-120mm lens obsolete the day it was announced.

I'd skip this 24-120mm, and buy the 28-300mm VR instead, since they have very similar optical and mechanical quality, and the 28-300mm offers a lot more range and costs less!

I think someone in Nikon marketing reversed the two prices, but until Nikon catches the mistake, getting the 28-300mm is a no-brainer. 28mm and 24mm are the same thing; neither is significantly wider than the other, but 300mm is 2.5x longer than 120mm!

I don't find the slight extra speed at 120mm significant, compared to losing the 120-300mm zoom range of the 28-300mm VR. I'd pack an 85mm f/1.8, which is an extraordinary lens, if I needed more speed at the long end.

Sadly, both the 24-120 and 28-300 are loaded with distortion. If this 24-120mm didn't have all this distortion, I'd be much more excited by it.

The old 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6 VR (2003-2010) has the same distortion, in fact, a little less distortion at 24mm than this new lens. For half the price, the old 24-120mm isn't as sharp, but hey, it's half price and otherwise does the same thing.

 

Deployment

I'd leave either a 77mm Nikon Clear (NC - UV) filter, or a 77mm Hoya Super HMC UV on the lens at all times. I would leave the hood at home.

If I was working in nasty, dirty areas, I'd forget the cap, and use an uncoated 77mm Tiffen UV filter instead. Uncoated filters are much easier to clean, but more prone to ghosting.

For color slides like Velvia 50, I use a 77mm Nikon A2 or 77mm Hoya HMC 81A outdoors.

For B&W film outdoors, I'd use a 77mm Nikon Y48 or O56 filter, or 77mm Hoya HMC K2 or 77mm Hoya HMC Orange.

 

More Information

Nikon's data

Nikon's press release

Nikon USA's data

Nikon USA's slick sheet

Nikon Australia's press release

 

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