Sony 85mm f/1.4FE Full-Frame GM (2016-)Top Sample Images Intro Format Compatibility Specs Performance Compared Usage Recommendations Sony FE 85mm f/1.4 GM (77mm filters, 28.9 oz./820g., 2.7'/0.85m close focus, about $1,798). bigger. I got mine at B&H. I'd also get it at Adorama, at Amazon, or at Crutchfield. This all-content, junk-free website's biggest source of support is when you use those or any of these links to my personally-approved sources when you get anything, regardless of the country in which you live. Sony does not seal its boxes in any way, so never buy at retail or any other source not on my personally approved list since you'll have no way of knowing if you're missing accessories, getting a defective, damaged, returned, store demo or used camera. Buy only from the approved sources I use myself for the best prices, service, return policies and selection. Thanks for helping me help you! Ken.
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Sample ImagesTop Sample Images Intro Format Pretty darn sharp wide open; remember this is a round tree trunk so the sides aren't in focus: Canary Island Palm Trunk, 15 February 2017. Sony A7II, Sony 85mm f/1.4 GM at f/1.4 at 1/2,500 at Auto ISO 100. bigger or camera-original © file. The trunk is round and far from flat, so very little is in perfect focus. The color fringes on out-of-focus highlights are spherochromatism.
Canary Island Palm Trunk, 15 February 2017. Sony A7II, Sony 85mm f/1.4 GM at f/8 at 1/100 at Auto ISO 100. bigger or camera-original © file. The trunk is round and far from flat, so very little is in perfect focus. The color fringes on out-of-focus highlights are spherochromatism.
Canary Island Palm Tree, 15 February 2017. Sony A7II, Sony 85mm f/1.4 GM at f/1.4 at 1/6,400 at Auto ISO 100. bigger or camera-original © file. The tree is not flat, so very little is in focus. This is great for f/1.4; it's super-sharp without any of the usual spherical aberration we'd see with older 85mm f/1.4 designs.
Canary Island Palm Tree, 15 February 2017. Sony A7II, Sony 85mm f/1.4 GM at f/8 at 1/100 at Auto ISO 125. bigger or camera-original © file.
IntroductionTop Sample Images Intro Format
This Sony 85/1.4 has superb optics in a reasonably well made package, with a high price to match. Not only does it have wonderful optics, it has a focus lock button right under your left thumb for very handy recomposition.
Good● Ultrasharp at every setting, especially f/1.4. ● Excellent bokeh. ● Fast f/1.4 for low light or very soft backgrounds. ● Very fast and essentially silent autofocus. ● Focus lock button. ● Slider to enable or disable aperture-ring click stops.
Bad● $1,800. ● Big and heavy.
Missing● No image stabilizer — but most Sony cameras do this internally with sensor shifting. ● No focus or depth-of-field scales.
Sony FE 85mm f/1.4 GM. bigger.
FormatTop Sample Images Intro Format This is a full-frame lens and I'm reviewing it as such. It works great on APS-C cameras and you may make the usual inferences for them.
CompatibilityTop Sample Images Intro Format This works on all Sony E-mount cameras, full-frame and crop-sensor. This includes all the NEX, A7, A6xxx and A5xxx series cameras. It will not work on any Minolta MAXXUM or Sony 35mm SLRs or DSLRs. Those use the old A mount which was actually the Minolta MAXXUM mount from 1987.
SpecificationsTop Sample Images Intro Format
NameSony 85mm f/1.4. bigger. Sony calls this the FE85mm F1.4 GM: FE: Full-frame coverage, E-mount. GM: G Master, which is meaningless other than meaning that the lens is high-priced.
OpticsSony 85/1.4 construction. ED and "Extreme" aspherical elements. bigger. 11 elements in 8 groups. 1 aspherical element. 3 extra-low dispersion elements. Sony Nano AR Coating.
DiaphragmSony 85mm f/1.4. bigger. 11 rounded blades. Stops down to f/16.
Focal Length 85mm. When used on APS-C, it sees the same angle of view as a 130mm lens sees when used on a full-frame camera. See also Crop Factor.
Angle of View 29º diagonal on full-frame. 19° diagonal on APS-C.
AutofocusInternal focus. No external movement as focussed, so no air or dust is sucked in.
Close FocusAutofocus: 2.79' (0.85 meters). Manual Focus: 2.62' (0.8 meters).
Maximum Reproduction Ratio1:8.3 (0.12 ×).
StabilizerNone.
Filters77mm filter thread.
HoodSony ALC-SH142 hood for 85mm f/1.4. bigger.
CaseIncluded padded nylon case. bigger.
Size3.54" maximum diameter × 4.23" extension from flange. 89.5 mm maximum diameter × 107.5 mm extension from flange.
Weight 28.92 oz. (820 g).
IncludedLens (SEL85F14GM). ALC-F77S front and ALC-R1EM rear cap. ALC-SH142 hood. Case & strap.
AnnouncedFebruary 2016.
PackagingBox, Sony 85mm f/1.4. bigger.
Box, Sony 85mm f/1.4. bigger. Corrugated cardboard box. Lens in bubble wrap inside included padded nylon fabric case.
Sony Model NumberSEL85F14GM.
Price, USA$1,798, February 2017.
PerformanceTop Sample Images Intro Format
Overall Autofocus Manual Focus Breathing Bokeh Distortion Ergonomics Falloff Filters Flare & Ghosts Lateral Color Fringes Macro Spherochromatism Stabilization Sunstars
OverallThis Sony 85 1.4 is the real thing; a modern interpretation of a classic professional staple for your Sony mirrorless camera.
AutofocusAutofocus is fast, and completely silent unless you hold it to your ear. There is a single focus lock button that's a Godsend; hold it to lock focus.
Manual FocusManual focus is electronic; the focus ring is only connected to the camera's computers. Slide the switch to MF and you're in Manual Focus. On most Sony cameras, set "DMF" as the focus mode (usually via your Fn button) and you'll have instant manual override just by turning the ring in what otherwise works like the AFS mode.
Focus BreathingFocus breathing is the image changing size as focused in and out. It's important to cinematographers because it looks funny if the image changes size as focus gets pulled back and forth between actors. If the lens does this, the image "breathes" by growing and contracting slightly as the dialog goes back and forth. I don't see any breathing, making this ideal for movies — if you can get around the odd electronic focus ring. I doubt you'll get good results with a pro follow-focus rig since the ring isn't actually connected to the focus mechanism and therefore won't reproduce the same focus as you return the ring to the same spot.
BokehBokeh, the feel or quality of out-of-focus areas as opposed to how far out of focus they are, is excellent. Backgrounds just melt away, but I expect this as that's the whole purpose of an 85/1.4 today. Here's a sample from headshot distance: Davis 6250 weather station, 15 February 2017. bigger or camera-original © file to explore on your computer (mobile devices rarely display full resolutions images properly). If you look at the camera-original © file you'll see color fringes on the out-of-focus parts of the white plastic housing of the weather station; this is spherochromatism which is typical for 85mm f/1.4 lenses.
DistortionThe Sony 85/1.4 GM has no visible distortion, even without most Sony camera's automatic correction. If you deactivate the camera's automatic correction, there is an invisible amount of pincushion distortion, which is easy to correct with Photoshop's lens distortion filter for scientific uses. These aren't facts or specifications, they are the results of my research that requires hours of photography and calculations on the resulting data.
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ErgonomicsThis is a big, fat, heavy lens, and works as we expect. Focus is an electronic encoder ring. It turns freely, and what it does depends on how you have your camera set. The aperture ring is a mushy electronic ring. It has third-stop clicks, with every click as deep as every other, and there is a slide switch on the bottom to defeat the clicks.
FalloffFalloff is invisible with the camera's default "Shading Correction" ON.
Filters, use withThere's no need for thin filters. Go ahead and use your standard rotating polarizer and grad filters. I can use a few standard 77mm filters and get no vignetting on full frame.
Flare & GhostsIn spite of Sony's claimed "nano" coating, ghosting performance is relatively poor. It has more ghosts than other modern lenses, but it won't be a problem unless you're putting the direct disc of the sun in your image mid-day like this. Many people want ghosts, and even use software to add them back in to modern lenses like this! Airy Palm Dawn, 15 February 2017. Sony A7II, Sony 85mm f/1.4 GM at f/1.4 at 1/5,000 at Auto ISO 100. bigger.
Airy Palm Dawn, 15 February 2017. Sony A7II, Sony 85mm f/1.4 GM at f/8 at 1/320 at Auto ISO 100. bigger.
Airy Palm Dawn, 15 February 2017. Sony A7II, Sony 85mm f/1.4 GM at f/16 at 1/100 at Auto ISO 100. bigger.
Lateral Color FringesThere are no color fringes as shot on Sony cameras, most of which by default correct for any that may be there.
MacroMacro performance is relatively poor; it gets no closer than the world's first 85/1.4 from 1981; and that original Nikon 85/1.4 actually has a slightly higher maximum macro magnification ratio than this lens, even if they have the same 0.85 meter close-focus distance. Any kit lens gets closer, but at least this 85/1.4 is sharp at all distances. Kienzle Flieger Automat 800/2843, 15 February 2017. Sony A7II, Sony 85mm f/1.4 GM at close-focus distance at f/8 at 1/640 at Auto ISO 100. bigger or camera-original © file.
1,200 x 900 pixel crop from above. bigger or camera-original © file. If this crop is about 12" (30cm) wide on your screen, then the complete image printed at this same extreme magnification would be about 40 x 60" (1 x 1.5 meters). You're seeing the actual texture of the watch face and case. If this crop is about 6" (15cm) wide on your screen, then the complete image printed at this same extreme magnification would be about 20 x 30" (50 x 75 cm). At f/1.4 it's pretty sharp, although spherochromatism will cause color fringes on most things, since almost nothing is in perfect focus at macro distances: Kienzle Flieger Automat 800/2843, 31 January 2017. Sony A7II, Sony 85mm f/1.4 GM at close-focus distance at f/1.4 at 1/800 at Auto ISO 100. bigger or camera-original © file.
1,200 x 900 pixel crop from above. bigger or camera-original © file. Again, if this crop is about 12" (30cm) wide on your screen, then the complete image printed at this same extreme magnification would be about 40 x 60" (1 x 1.5 meters), and if this crop is about 6" (15cm) wide on your screen, then the complete image printed at this same extreme magnification would be about 20 x 30" (50 x 75 cm).
Mechanical QualitySony 85mm f/1.4. bigger. This Sony 85 is made reasonably well, with both metal and plastic on the outside.
HoodThe hood is all plastic, but it's pretty solid and has a dedicated lock button as well as a very thick rubber bumper.
Front BumperNone on the lens itself.
Filter ThreadsPlastic.
Hood Bayonet MountPlastic.
Front BarrelMetal.
Focus RingRubber-covered plastic.
Mid BarrelSection with focus lock button: metal.
Aperture RingMetal.
Rear BarrelPlastic.
IdentityLittle raised silver-lettered plate glued to top of barrel. Dark gray paint on bottom rear of barrel.
InternalsSeems like mostly metal.
Moisture Seal at MountYes.
MountDull chromed metal.
MarkingsPrinted.
Serial NumberSony 85mm f/1.4. bigger. A sticker glued to the bottom of the barrel - not an acceptable way to serialize any product that sells for more than $10.
Date CodeNone found.
Noises When ShakenAlmost silent.
Made inThailand, which is shamefully hidden in black letters molded into the black plastic flare guard at the back of the lens. It's only visible on close inspection with the lens off a camera and no rear cap on the lens. Sony puts a deceptively legible silver-on-black sticker on the outside of the lens near the certifications and model numbers that says Sony Corp., Japan.
SharpnessThis 85 is ultra sharp at every setting everywhere in the image. You pay a premium for this. The only limitations will be your skill as a photographer. Sony 85/1.4 MTF at f/1.4 and at f/8 (10 cyc/mm and 30 cyc/mm).
SpherochromatismSpherochromatism, also called "color bokeh" by laymen, can cause colored fringes on out-of-focus highlights, usually seen as green fringes on backgrounds and magenta fringes on foregrounds with fast, long lenses shot wide open. It is an advanced form of chromatic aberration in a different dimension than lateral color. Spherochromatism is most commonly seen in fast lenses of moderate focal length when shooting contrasty items at full aperture. It goes away as stopped down. Most 85mm f/1.4 lenses are loaded with spherochromatism. Sony 85mm f/1.4 Spherochromatism. Sony A7II, Sony 85mm f/1.4 GM at f/1.4 at 1/500 at Auto ISO 100. bigger or camera-original © file.
1,200 x 900 pixel crop from above. See how the white letters take on color fringes when they're out of focus? Sony A7II, Sony 85mm f/1.4 GM at f/1.4 at 1/500 at Auto ISO 100. bigger or camera-original © file. This Sony 85/1.4 has visible spherochromatism, which is very common in 85/1.4 lenses, but oddly instead of the usual green/magenta, background highlights tend to fringe towards cyan and foreground highlights tend towards red. This is great for portraits since it helps smooth blue sky and foliage, but bad for cinematography since it can lead to weird colored fringes on out-of-focus bright areas and points of light.
Image StabilizationIt has no image stabilization, however most Sony cameras have built-in sensor-shift stabilization. For instance, on a Sony A7 Mk II it works very well down to 1/15 hand-held due to the camera's own internal stabilization.
SunstarsAiry Palm Dawn, 15 February 2017. Sony A7II, Sony 85mm f/1.4 GM at f/16 at 1/100 at Auto ISO 100. bigger. Due to its 11 rounded diaphragm blades, this 85/1.4 makes no sunstars on brilliant points of light. Straight blades are much better. For magnificent sunstars with 11 diaphragm blades, the LEICA APO-SUMMICRON-M ASPH is worlds better.
ComparedTop Sample Images Intro Format
Nikon 85mm f/1.4 AI-s and Sony FE 85mm f/1.4 GM. bigger. The 85mm f/1.4 has been a professional staple since Nikon invented the world's first 85/1.4 in 1981. Obviously the original Nikon AI-s shown above is smaller and lighter, as well as being much better made out of all metal to much tighter tolerances. All 85/1.4s I've tested have great bokeh. The first Nikon and most other 85/1.4s have similar performance, which is exquisite sharpness stopped down a little, but lower contrast wide-open at f/1.4 due to spherical aberration Newer optical designs like the Nikon 85/1.4G and this Sony are now ultra-sharp even at f/1.4. There isn't really any comparison if you shoot Sony, since this is the only 85/1.4 that works properly on Sony mirrorless cameras. I don't suggest lens adapters, they usually are flaky. If you're a cheapskate and don't mind futzing around with multiple manual settings just trying to take each picture, sure, an adapter and the Nikon 85mm f/1.4 AI-s will get you very similar portrait results for less money.
UsageTop Sample Images Intro Format Sony 85mm f/1.4. bigger. The unmarked round button is the focus lock button. Hold it to hold focus, for instance, if you want to recompose. Leave the slide switch at AF (autofocus). Use MF, Manual Focus, only if you want to disable autofocus. On most Sony cameras, set "DMF" as the focus mode (usually via your Fn button) and you'll have instant manual override just by turning the ring in what otherwise works like the AFS mode. The CLICK ON/OFF button on the bottom disables or activates the third-stop clicks for the aperture. Leave this ON, except for cine use if you want to make smooth, silent aperture adjustments.
RecommendationsTop Sample Images Intro Format
This is a serious lens for people who need either high speed for dim light, or want very soft backgrounds for portraits.
Protective FilterThe very best protective filter is the 77mm Hoya multicoated HD3 UV which uses hardened glass and repels dirt and fingerprints, and is also multicoated. For less money, the B+W 77mm 010 is an excellent filter, as are the multicoated version and the basic multicoated Hoya filters, but the Hoya HD3 is the toughest and the best. Filters last a lifetime, so you may as well get the best. The Hoya HD3 stays cleaner than the others since it repels oil and dirt.
Where I got mineI got mine at B&H. I'd also get it at Adorama, at Amazon, or at Crutchfield.
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